Thursday, October 4, 2007

Lailathul Qadhr


Shifa n i were talking one night when we came to the topic of 'Lailathul Qadhr' and i was thinking its the night thats more wonderous than any other night. the night where we were blessed with the holy Quran. Its said that its among the last 10 days of the month ramazaan and we'll get blessings of a 1000months if we worship n pray on that night.

So what i thought is if those 10days coincides with the menstruation cycle of a female(a period where she cant pray or touch the quran) how could she get the blessing of that night? so we talked n talked about it and it would surely be unfair if that was the case wouldnt it? We were sure that our religion cant be that way and that there had to be something behind it. that Question did occur to me even before but i jes didnt care much about it since i was a guy n all. And to common thinking we figured that even if women cant touch the Quran and pray, they can still recite quran by heart, pray to god to forgive their sins and all those other stuff besides touching the quran right? So thats not gonna stop a woman from working to get the blessings of that night.

The next day we did ask someone with definitely much better knowledge than us in religion and he said the same thing. that womn could do everything to get the blessing of that night besides touching the quran and doing the prayer. So i guess im sharing what happened regarding that topic. im sure some of u wouldve thought about it too. and if anyone has any other info other than what we were told please do share it with us.

17 comments:

Unknown said...

yaa i was thinkin abt the same thing..n finally ended wit this..anyways infomative post.cheeers

odium said...

thats informative..n yea our relign is not that unfair dho :D

MaateZ said...

A'ssalam alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatu

How Can a Menstruating Woman Observe Laylatul-Qadr?

A'ssalam alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatu

Anonymous said...

lailathl gadhr is one night right? and its usually said to be an odd night. but one country's odd night is another country's even... whyyy??? is it possible that all muslims could start fasting the same day???

Aisha said...

gr8...being a guy ekamaa visnaaleema... Shows u really care :P ...nyc post :)

iecco said...

yup really informative
great one arra!

kaiza shozey said...

Thanx everyone. Especially Mujahidh zee. i looked it up and im happy i had been thinking right :).

and bulhaa, no. its not possible for everyone to start fasting on the same date even if lailathul qadhr is the same night for everyone. i mean we have been told ways to help us decide the first day of ramazaan and it neednt be the same day for all countries dho? i dunno much abt that but i THINK it doesnt necessarily have to be that way dho? i mean if its night time here in maldives, at some part of the world it could be day right? so for them probably lailathl qadhr would be their day's night dho? Im not sure mind u. but im pretty sure it would be within a 24hr period dho.

For those too lazy enough to check the link here's a bit of what it says :P
"A menstruating woman should not perform Salah (prayer) nor touch the Qur'an, but she can make du`a' (supplication) and share with other Muslims their prayer by watching and listening to TV channels or radio stations that broadcast Tarawih prayer live.

She can ask someone to put the Mushaf on a table or a stand and read from it without touching it. She can take a cassette and listen to Qur'anic recitation."

"Sheikh Muhammad Iqbal Nadvi, Imam of Calgary Mosque, Alberta, Canada, and Former Professor at King Saud University, Riyad, Saudi Arabia, concludes:

A menstruating woman is not supposed to pray. She can do the following:

1. Read as much as she can to increase he knowledge about Islam.

2. Make du’a’ and spend time making dhikr to Allah Almighty.

3. Listen to the Qur’an or read from her memory.

4. Watch Islamic programs or shows on TV or video to educate herself about Islam.

5. Attend religious classes to be always around the committed sisters."

FehiNoo said...

oh hey aaanu! I finally got a lil bit unswamped from work to check out ur blog
great question, but i disagree with a lot of you
the savaab is in reading the Koran, not by touching it. So what is the big deal about touching the koran if it has no consequence? why can't the woman touch the koran if she is bleeding? I do not feel different physically or emotionally while i am menstruating. no one that i have read has given evidence from the koran that women are not allowed to do these things. so why is it a common belief? my reasoning is that a lot of women suffer during menstruation and for this reason women were ALLOWED not to fast or perform prayers. but like many rituals and traditions that continue over long periods of time, they become unwritten laws. if we allow this to happen in every instance of our life, it is dangerous. If you look at the website provided by our friend mujahideen, he does not have evidence from the Koran, and the hadith he has is weak. Check out this link: http://www.submission.org/women/menses.html i ask you, all of my friends to be cautious in what you read, even the above link i have given you, to question these traditional beliefs... i am a girl, but i am no lesser than any man (aanu can attest to that :D) great blog aanu

FehiNoo said...

im sorry i confused mujahideen with mujahid-zee

kaiza shozey said...

@transtion: yea, good point. ive been thinking abt that too. if women are allowed to read the koran why cant they touch it? and its jes weird when in the link it says that others can even open the koran and keep it at a distance so that the women can actually read it without touching it. as always, u point out some veeeery interesting points. hehe. and yea everyone. believe me. she aint any lesser than a man. hehe

kaiza shozey said...

hmmm, that was very interesting. but rnt we told that if theres a conflict in the koran or if we arent sure of something to look into the prophet's (SAW)sunnai, and if not from there then go to 'ijmaau'(religiously knowleded men)? so like its clear to me that we can take different meanings from that aayath. im sure those ppl who sez women cant touch the koran etc would show their justifications just like the ppl in the link u gave transition. but he hasnt provided any hadheeth or anything to justify his argument whereas the other group has provided stuff from the prophet's(SAW)sunnai and 'ijmaau'. could u shed some light on this pls?

Simon said...

This is precisely the kind of dogmatic ideologies and absolutely useless worries that Muslims busy themselves with.

If you want to be a true Muslim learn the duas that you recite before entering a house, before leaving a hourse, before entering toilet, before doing your business in the toilet, before taking a shower, before leaving the toilet, as you get on the bed, before you start making out, after you've made out, before the shower, after the shower, (don't forget as you get in the toilet to do the shower there are duas), before you sleep, as you wake up, before you eat, before you drink...oh and don't forget to dunk the fly if it lands in your soup.

If you want to be good Muslims utilize your time in productive ways. Watching live Tarawih on TV for sawaab? Indeed! I want to be plugged permanently to this source of savaab. Wake up people. Use the time to read on other cultures, on science and open your eyes.

If God so detests women in menstruation then why the heck did he create them with this problem? Why the laws against them? Because these are laws that Arab MEN created. God loves all his creatures no matter in what condition they are.

What a load of nonsense!

kaiza shozey said...

And yet again we have another opinion right again in so many ways. calm down simon. ur expecting too much out of random babblings. but nice points. :)

Anonymous said...

bulhaa::
L/G is an odd night ... ???
hehe ... yeah its odd alright ...
thats fer sure ...
i just couldnt help but notice the irnoy here ...
sorry abt this ...

MaateZ said...

A'ssalam alaikum

Sis transitions, I hope this answer helps:

When it comes to reading from the Mus-haf (the Arabic text itself), a different rule applies. The correct view of the scholars is that it is forbidden to touch the mus-haf when one is in any kind of state of impurity, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… which none can touch except the purified.” [al-Waaqi’ah 56:79]. In a letter to ‘Amr ibn Hazm, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told the people of Yemen: “No one should touch the Qur’aan except one who is taahir (pure).” (Reported by Maalik, 1/199; al-Nisaa’i, 8/57; Ibn Hibbaan, 793; al-Bayhaqi, 1/87. Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said: A group of scholars classed this hadeeth as saheeh because it is so well known. Al-Shaafi’i said: It is proven by them that it was a letter sent by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: “This letter is famous among the scholars of seerah, and is so well known among the scholars that it does not need an isnaad. It is like tawaatur because the people accepted and recognized it. Shaykh al-Albani said that its is saheeh. Al-Talkhees al-Habeer, 4/17. See also: Nasb al-Raayah, 1/196; Irwaa’ al-Ghaleel, 1/158).

(Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen, 1/159; al-Majmoo’, 1/356; Kashshaaf al-Qinaa’, 1/147; al-Mughni, 3/461; Nayl al-Awtaar, 1/226; Majmoo’ al-Fataawaa, 21/460; al-Sharh al-Mumti’ li’l-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 1/291)

And Allaah knows best.

Reading Qur'aan during menses

also you may want to read this:
Are Women Deemed "Unclean" During Menstruation

and this too:
A menstruating woman is not naajis (impure)

BTW here is some info regarding the submitters (www.submission.org):
submitters

kaiza shozey said...

@ismael rasheed: yea dude, pigs really do fly at pink floyd concerts. and they dont JUST fly. hehe.

@mujahid -zee-: thanx for the info. it was very enlightening. :) Arigatho Gozaimas!

FehiNoo said...

mujahid-zee, do you belive you are impure/incapable just because you menstruate? do you believe a merciful God would incapacitate women this way?

Like the writings show, there are many differing opinions on them. Who are they who made these opinions? Human beings, just like you and me. I do not suffer as most women do during their periods therefore I do not see any reason to not touch the Quruan(which like I said earlier has no consequence at all), to pray or to fast.

are we not doing what the jews that Allah condemned are doing? Aren't we disallowing a very basic right, (the right of practicing religion) to women because they menstruate?

I applaud the thinking behind allowing women not to fast or pray, due to reasons of health. It has nothing to do with impureness. If a woman during her periods feels healthy enough, I do not see any reason why she should be disallowed from practicing her faith

Mujahid-Zee, you have not given your opinion on the matter even though you have provided links to some writings on the subject. Please disclose your personal opinion.